Ultimate Power Waterfiends :)

[Qeltar]

Okay, so here's my take on the fastest way to kill these guys. I tried a lot of different things, even venturing into the suicide zone (the multicombat waterfiends room) and this is the best I've come up with.

WARNING: This is an advanced and dangerous method. Don't attempt if you aren't comfortable with Dharoking dangerous critters, or if you are distracted or lagging.

Requirements:

- Very high melee combat skills (95+)
- Very high Magic (90+)
- High prayer (80+, higher is better)
- Level 88 Summoning
- Low risk aversion

Equipment:

- Full Dharoks
- Fury
- Skillcape
- "Barrows" gloves
- Dragon boots
- Berserker ring (Substitute a ring of life until you get used to the method!)

Supplies:

- One-click teleport (MANDATORY! I use a House teletab)
- Unicorn stallion pouch
- 50 or so Healing aura scrolls
- 1 4-dose super set
- 10 sets of alching runes
- 14 4-dose prayer potions
- Holy wrench
- 4 pieces of good food (I use pineapple pizzas, sharks are fine)

Starting:

1. Bank at the Grand Tree. Load all your stuff up, run to the whirlpool and jump in.
2. Put your weapon on "crush", turn on Protection from Magic and go downstairs. Run south and then west to the second waterfiend area. Run well past the green dragon area, towards the back of the waterfiends' zone.
3. Put on Protection from Ranged and Piety. Summon the unicorn stallion and start fighting, taking the first dose of super set between hits.

Combat tips:

- Use the unicorn's scrolls for your primary healing. Reserve at least one piece of food (either brought or one of the sharks the waterfiends drop) for emergencies.
- Do not go below 20 HP. It really doesn't make that much difference in terms of damage done, overall, but it's quite risky to get too low on these guys, especially since the unicorn scroll has a short delay before it activates.
- If you run out of food, keep your HP higher than normal by using scrolls when the special bar is full even if you are above 20 HP. I sometimes go up to 50 HP, don't worry, it won't last long.
- Watch your prayer and drink p pot sips regularly -- you'll use them up fast and if your prayer runs out, you are toast.
- Take drops as you have room for them, concentrating on stackables. You can alch between hits if you time it right.
- If you are unlucky you might run out of food and spec bar. If so, hit the one-click tele and come back again, it's not worth dying over.

Results:

- For me each trip lasts about 36 minutes during which I get 80 to 85 kills. This works out to 130 to 140 kills per hour, not including banking and prep time, or 115 to 125 kills per hour with banking and prep time.
- You get a charm nearly every kill, about 80-85% of them crimsons. So you can get 100+ crimsons an hour.
- This is expensive in terms of p pot use, but considering how close this is to the results from using Ancients on rock lobsters, it's actually quite cheap. And the drops you get pay for most of the supply cost anyway.

[Dragonlordjl]

Only Qeltar would think of this XD

Unfortunately it's not really a viable option, as most people don't have access to Unicorn Stallions.

[Qeltar]

It might be doable with a bunch of Sara brews. Haven't tried yet.

As more people get to 88.. which is when you start needing crimsons by the thousands.. this will be more in demand.

[Dragonlordjl]

It might be doable with a bunch of Sara brews. Haven't tried yet.

As more people get to 88.. which is when you start needing crimsons by the thousands.. this will be more in demand.

I'll be interested to know how you fare with Brews. Anyway, very nice work in coming up with this.

[ferrariman12]

I'm just about to level to 88+ with Ice Barrage on the Lobsters --- good thing there's another way to collect charms that doesn't blow the bank in terms of prayer potions AND barrages!

[Qeltar]

Not sure how viable the brews will be. The problem is that every time you use them you then have to repot and that takes up space.

Maybe one of the level 79 titans.. a bunyip definitely won't do.

BTW this is still not even close to the Barrage method on lobsters, but it is by far the best way to get charms other than that.

[FinsToTheLeft]

Only Qeltar would think of this XD

Unfortunately it's not really a viable option, as most people don't have access to Unicorn Stallions.

Well, not really. A couple of people have tried it. If I recall, Lord Klotski said that Dharoking worked fine, but was similar in charm drops to his other methods.

For me as well, not an option. I'll get that stallion eventually, but I'm slaying for most of my charms.

[Blizaga57]

This sounds intriguing, but with the way I play, I'd be dead in 5 minutes so it really isn't an option for me.

[Doomedrusher]

Would blood barraging in full ahrims at the multi waterfiend zone with protect from ranged work? You said you did tests there... Please let us know what methods you tried

[Lordgreyhawk]

This sounds intriguing, but with the way I play, I'd be dead in 5 minutes so it really isn't an option for me.

Would be the same for me. I'm sure this is a very fast method, but I think I'll stay in the comfort zone of using the SGS and Bunyip.

[tlin]

I'm not sure how much advantage you really get from Dharok if you're staying over 20hp. I have level 99 summoning friends who use Sara Sword, Piety and Unicorn to get over 100 crimson per hour there.

[Ukraine]

Il stick with my own methood, anchor and karils, i get close but not the same kill ratio without taking a risk and not banking every 30 mins, im 85 summoning ATM but will reach 88 soon.
Plus with bunyip i use 3 p pots MAX every trip, since the raw food drop ration is decent.

[Qeltar]

I'm not sure how much advantage you really get from Dharok if you're staying over 20hp. I have level 99 summoning friends who use Sara Sword, Piety and Unicorn to get over 100 crimson per hour there.

No offense, but people constantly exaggerate what they can get in various activities in RS. To get 100 crimson you need 120 kills per hour, and I doubt that's doable *consistently* with an SS and Piety. Even with Dharoks and Piety it is hard to do.

And yes, overall, you get marginally more charms for a lot more cost here... that's the nature of the beast when pushing the envelope with combat.

BTW I routinely hit 70 to 80 with this method.

Il stick with my own methood, anchor and karils, i get close but not the same kill ratio without taking a risk and not banking every 30 mins, im 85 summoning ATM but will reach 88 soon.
Plus with bunyip i use 3 p pots MAX every trip, since the raw food drop ration is decent.

Again, nothing wrong with that method, but you aren't going to get anywhere near the kill rate with that.

[Ukraine]

Il stick with my own methood, anchor and karils, i get close but not the same kill ratio without taking a risk and not banking every 30 mins, im 85 summoning ATM but will reach 88 soon.
Plus with bunyip i use 3 p pots MAX every trip, since the raw food drop ration is decent.

Again, nothing wrong with that method, but you aren't going to get anywhere near the kill rate with that.

I know, il never will even with slayer helmet and super sets, but it kills the massive risk and the money swirl down the drain for p pots.

[Qeltar]

Il stick with my own methood, anchor and karils, i get close but not the same kill ratio without taking a risk and not banking every 30 mins, im 85 summoning ATM but will reach 88 soon.
Plus with bunyip i use 3 p pots MAX every trip, since the raw food drop ration is decent.

Again, nothing wrong with that method, but you aren't going to get anywhere near the kill rate with that.

I know, il never will even with slayer helmet and super sets, but it kills the massive risk and the money swirl down the drain for p pots.

Yes, using Piety is definitely expensive. But consider that some people pay 1M per hour at rock lobsters, and this is a nice compromise.

Have you tried Veracs flail instead of the anchor?

[Qeltar]

Would blood barraging in full ahrims at the multi waterfiend zone with protect from ranged work? You said you did tests there... Please let us know what methods you tried

I haven't tried ancients there but I did once try chins.. it was awful.

The big problem with waterfiends is they have no melee attack and so it is hard to get them close together for group attacks. This means the only point of fighting them in multi is if you can get a familiar that kills them fast, and frankly, I haven't found one yet. Even the level 90+ familiars simply do not kill them quick enough to justify the danger and annoyance of mage/range monsters ganging up on you.

Also, it seems all familiars have awful range/mage defence, and even a geyser titan will be killed off by the waterfiends in about 15 minutes, despite the huge HP totals.

[Qeltar]

Okay, for shits and giggles I tried Ancients.

My highly sophisticated assessment: "um, no."

I do recommend it to anyone who enjoys spending 1k-2k a cast to hit a maximum of 4 or so monsters and watch splashes 50% of the time.

Was going to try chins but the Grand Excrement won't sell me any. *sigh*

[Dragonlordjl]

Was going to try chins but the Grand Excrement won't sell me any. *sigh*

Of course they won't. Have you seen the forums? They are spammed with people "buying 200k chins!!!!!" despite only being able to get 20k every three hours in the GE. Because news got out that they are fixing the Skeletons, all the wanna-be merchants hopped on the bandwagon and bought up the entire supply of Chins. I bought 20k this morning, but not to resell at a profit- I plan to use them. I bought them because the price was really low and I knew that THIS situation would happen once more people found out about this.

[MotherBrainII]

Despite the limitations, player to player trading does still work.

[Mountain]

I would get some twisted pleasure from them not changing it back, and all the wannabe-merchants losing tons.
They're basing it on the words of a single j-mod post on the rsof, which had been contradicted earlier by another one.
My entire point: