Ankou: A Training Guide

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Ankou: A Training Guide

Postby Rue Night » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:17 pm

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I. Introduction
II. Location
III. Set Ups and Xp rates
V. Technique


I. Introduction
Ankou are a pretty good candidate to train combat on for a few reasons. One, they are undead, so you can make full use of a salve amulet. Two, they are not very hard, which means you can easily AFK them for a while if you need to and they won'y hit hard. Thrid, they drop Gold Charms almost constantly.

You make approx. 75k an hour on drops.

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Ankou come in 3 varieties: Level 75, Level 82, and Level 86.

The Level 75 has 60 HP and can hit up to 9. It is in a room by itself.

The Level 82 has 65 HP and can hit up to 11. It is in a room with one spawn of skeletons (Level 68).

The Level 86 has 70 HP and can hit up to 12. It is in a room with 2 spawns of Ghosts (Level 76).

Drops (for all varieties): Death Runes (10), Blood Runes (5-11), Law Runes (2), Noted Pure Essence (15), Clue Scroll (lvl 3), Grimy Herbs, Charms (all varieties), Bass, Fried Mushrooms, Adamant Arrows, Noted Mithril Ore, and a few other lesser drops including seeds.

II. Location
Ankou are in the bottom Level of the Stronghold of Security. The entrance to the Stronghold is in the middle of the Barbarian Village. After making your way to the bottom floor, go to the portal just east of the entrance to get to the best 2 spawns, or go north to get to the other spawn.

I reccomend training on either the Level 86 of 82 spawns because they are always less crowded, and the spawns of either Skeletons or Ghosts add to the amount of xp you can get per hour.

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III.Set Ups and XP rates
GENERAL
I HIGHLY recommend use of a salve ammy or salve ammy (e), but if you don't have it, a fury or glory works too.

Obsidain, Fire, God Cloak, or Cape of Achievement (untrimmed or trimmed) all work fine for capes.

For gloves I use a combat brace, but any type of RFD gloves better than mithril would do the trick. Combat brace is handy if you have Ankou for a Slayer task.

GUTHAN'S + SARA SWORD
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42k XP per hour
75k Profit per hour

Also, the inventory can be adjusted for a set of 'non-parishable' armour, such as proselyte, full dragon, or full bandos.

When using Guthan's, I also used Burst of Strength and Clarity of thought. They help fighting along after you use a dragon battleaxe special attack. They can be replaced with Restore potions or ommited entirely depending on what you want to get for XP per Hour. If you are using prayer pots, a Holy wrench would help (but I don't have one, so I can't put it here).

The sharks are just back-up food and the Varrock tele is just a fast escape if needed.

The dragon battle-axe helps out on faster kills, but can be omitted as neccissary.

PROSELYTE + SARA SWORD
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67k xp per hour
22k loss per hour

This method comes out at a loss, but with more xp per hour. This is really not full proselyte, but helm of Neitzitnot has only one less prayer bonus and far better defence bonuses than the Proselyte Sallet(helm).

I repotted my super set every 6 minutes to get the most out of them. If you wish to save some money though, add time inbetween repottings.

I usually let my prayer get to 48 and the repot.

V. Technique
I usually switch off between the 82 and 86 spawns just so that I always have something attacking me. After they stop auto-attacking you, either run to a different room and switch spawns or run to a different room (making sure you pass both Portals of Death) and run back into the same room. As I said before, I don't use the level 75 spawn as it is almost always crowded.

Training on Ankou is pretty strainght forward. Start off with your pimary training wep, and when you get down to around 50 health, switch to guthan's and heal yourself. DBA spec as neccisary, usually after your attack and defence come back up to their normal levels.

Ferarriman has shown me that you CAN run to the wall to make them become agressive again.

My Combat Levels are 81 Attack, 90 Strength, 77 Defence, 82 HP, and 70 Prayer.

Have fun.

CREDITS: Zybez.net for both info on Ankou and for the map(which i added a bit to)
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Postby Craven Range » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:16 pm

Good guide

Suggestions: Are you sure it's 30-50k per hour? That figure is pretty broad. If you have access to RuneScript on irc, before you fight log off (so your highscores xp is same as in game) Then type !Start Skill (for example if doing strength type !Start Strength into the chat. When you are done fighting for your trip, log off quickly so your highscores is the same as ingame xp, then type !End, it will tell you how much xp you got in the timed period (timer starts when you say start and ends when you say end), and convert it into xp per hour.
I would do this for you but i have much lower stats and i don't have the salve ammy :D

Secondly, would proselyte work?
With Proselyte helm, top and legs using peity, you will drain ~24.47 prayer points per minute
With Guthan's, using the 15% prayers, you will drain ~40Prayer points per minute
With Guthan's, using the 10% prayers, you will drain ~20 prayer points per minute

Therefore, Peity with Proselyte is only slightly more prayer points than what you are wearing. The defence boost will help conserve hitpoints. Though this is probably a stupid idea if you need to heal alot...

Thirdly, Holy Wrench. I think you may have forgot to include it. The extra points will help, and you have free inventory spaces so there is no real reason not to bring it.

Sara Godsword? Do you have access to one of these? I wonder if it works well for training strength down there.

Do you break even with prayer pots? Profit?
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Postby ferrariman12 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:17 pm

If you just go and touch the walls and come back to the center, they go re-aggressive.
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Postby Withered Laurels » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:09 pm

Errr... Supersets? Where are they?
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Postby Rue Night » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:36 pm

First off, thanks for the feedback.

@ Craven: I don't know what runescript is, but I could do a more controlled test of the xp/hr range. Now that you mention it, i could also test proselyte against guthans, and do a thrid test using proselyte as my 'non-parishable armour. I didn't forget the holy wrench, it is written into the guide, i just don't have it. I tested sara godsord here, it wasn't much better for healing than guthans, and resulted in slower combat xp. If Ankou were any harder, I'd agree with you. I didn't check what I made v. cost of prayer pots, but I am fairly sure you still make a profit.

@ Ferarri: I am not sure about that.

@WL I thought the DBA + Pray would take care of any stat bonuses that were needed, but I guess I could test them as part of the next test, maybe only using super att and def pots.

I will update this guide a little later.
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Postby Craven Range » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:41 pm

@WL I thought the DBA + Pray would take care of any stat bonuses that were needed, but I guess I could test them as part of the next test, maybe only using super att and def pots.


Just in regards to this, IMO Supersets would be cheaper than prayer AND give a higher bonus to your stats.

A Pure set is about 5k? And gives +15% to attack and +15% to strength
A PPot is about 6k? And your only getting +10% to attack and +10% to strength?

Just a thought..



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Postby Sadukar123 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:47 pm

Prayer is 10% constantly, Super set is 20% decreasing in time.
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Postby Doomedrusher » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:49 pm

Sadukar123 wrote:Prayer is 10% constantly, Super set is 20% decreasing in time.


They stack...
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Postby Rue Night » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:19 pm

Craven, do you know anywhere I can safely download any of those add-ons?

P pots are 8k market price I think, so It may be worth getting a few super sets to try instead of prayer.

Also, there may be some misconcption, but I was using the 5% strength and attack prayers.


Also, now I have a lot more data that would like to be tested, can you guys compile a list of tests you'd like me to do?
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Postby Kittguin » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:28 pm

you can get swiftkit from http://www.swiftkit.net
to use runescript you need to go to an irc channel that has one. to get to an irc channel you click show internal utilities under the stat lookup and click the 2nd tab. in the box type a username (using your rs name is usually a good idea) in the 2nd box you need to put a channel (you can use mine, #kittguin, I usually have a runescript or vectra (same thing as runescript pretty much)) and then just hit connect
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Postby Craven Range » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:30 pm

Personally i use Mirc, to talk, and swiftkit to play,
But you can use irc on swiftkit if you want

Most channels have Runescript, if you are really stuck, go into #cwa
It's my clans channel and we have a Runescript 24/7

By the way if you use Swiftkit you get a neat highscores lookup, one button push to capture and save screenshots, irc, highscores lookup and mp3 player all in one window. I couldn't play RS on the normal internet :P
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Postby Kittguin » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:33 pm

Craven Range wrote:Personally i use Mirc, to talk, and swiftkit to play,
But you can use irc on swiftkit if you want

Most channels have Runescript, if you are really stuck, go into #cwa
It's my clans channel and we have a Runescript 24/7

By the way if you use Swiftkit you get a neat highscores lookup, one button push to capture and save screenshots, irc, highscores lookup and mp3 player all in one window. I couldn't play RS on the normal internet :P

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Postby Rue Night » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:36 pm

Okay, so I am entering my RSN into this thing?... How safe is this?
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Postby Craven Range » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:37 pm

Metroidfan10 wrote:Okay, so I am entering my RSN into this thing?... How safe is this?


You can enter anything you want, personally i use Craven on irc. It doesn't matter, it's just a chat nickname. And only people you chat with can see it, since you choose the channel you enter. go into #kittguin for starters :D
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Postby Rue Night » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:27 am

First XP per hour test cmplete with the set up as described.

42,839 Strength XP, 2075 Attack XP, 2075 Defence XP, 15640 HP XP in a one hour test.
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Postby satan dragon » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:43 pm

Good guide.... just to consider:

I'd often use dh. U certainly couldn't afk, but it was way kool to OHKO them!
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Postby Rue Night » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:26 pm

satan dragon wrote:Good guide.... just to consider:

I'd often use dh. U certainly couldn't afk, but it was way kool to OHKO them!

When I sell my other ss (yes i have 2 lol), i will get a set of dh to test it out.

Guide updated.
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Postby niperwiper » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:40 pm

Metroidfan10 wrote:Okay, so I am entering my RSN into this thing?... How safe is this?

If you meant swiftkit for actually PLAYING rs, then I'm actually not sure. I used eliteswitch for a long time, never gave me any advantages except being able to look up players faster. Swiftkit is a bit stranger in my book, only because i can manipulate my game window anyway I want to, and the screens in-game change accordingly. However, MANY people use these programs and have not had a problem. Just stick to the ones everyone talks about if you really want to use one ;)

Oh and never talk about it yourself in-game. Unless you REALLY REALLY trust the person you're talking to. Even then, it's probably a bad idea. Keep in mind that time I said "opium" in clan chat and got reported by some random person 20 minutes later for something totally unrelated and muted for saying opium for four days. I generally play in standard browser mode since HD came out, but I may go back to swiftkit, it's a very robust and helpful program when planning activities. I at least have it open on another window :P

Oh, and more on-topic, how safe is it to dharok these things? I'm sure your XP will be a lot better then.
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Postby Kittguin » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:49 pm

niperwiper wrote: I used eliteswitch for a long time, never gave me any advantages except being able to look up players faster.

ELITESWITCH IS BAD!!!!!
I looked it up before and it has built in macros and stuff
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Postby ferrariman12 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:40 pm

:) glad I could help!
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