Construction Leveling – A Guide To Saving Time and Money

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Construction Leveling – A Guide To Saving Time and Money

Postby Deaconis » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:53 am

I wrote this guide back in May 2007 for use on my old clan site. The guide assumes that you plank and bank (i.e., make your own planks). All the costs are based on the 250gp per oak plank and 500gp for a teak plank sawmill costs.


Save $$$ --> Plank and Bank!

Teak and Oak logs both are fairly fast to cut and are also decent woodcutting experience. Using the Castle War oaks or teaks it is easy to bank at Castle Wars. Those who have completed the Enlightened Journey quest have an easier route yet to "plank and bank". Once the quest is complete you can open the route from Castle Wars to the Varrok Saw Mill. It’s easy to just plank your logs this way, or, in the case of Oaks its easy to actually fly the balloon to Varrok where you can cut logs, plank, then use your Castle Wars ring back to Castle Wars to bank.

Note: The above is also great for those who do not wish to level Construction. Use the above method to make planks and sell to those who don’t mind paying the high cost to have their planks conveniently ready-made. With Oak and Teak planks selling for 400-500 and 800-1K each respectively (be sure to check prices against the G.E. of course!), it’s a decent way to make some serious gold for very little time (and gain some Woodcutting XP!)

Oak Planks vs Teak Planks
As we all know the Construction skill is an extremely expensive skill and was intended to be so to help drain the Runescape economy of Gold. The table below compares what is arguably the best four items to make to level Construction (the construction levels needed are in parenthesis). It’s easy to see that Oak appears to be the cheapest way to level, however note that the Teak options shown take about 40 percent less time! Time is a big factor to many Runescape players and depending upon your skill levels you may be able to easily use that time saved to make more cash to fund your Construction Skill!

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EXAMPLE:
Building Oak Larders will cost you approximately 466K per 100K XP.
Building Teak Dark Light Display cases will cost you approximately 524K per 100K XP.
Now ask yourself these questions:
· Is saving 58K worth it to me to work 40 percent longer for the same amount of XP?
· Can I make 58K easily in the time I would save? OR
· Will I be able to easily use the time saved to "Plank and Bank" my own Teak Planks?

I believe most players would be able to easily make the 58K in the time saved by using Teak planks and/or use that time to make their own planks, but these are questions only you can answer for yourself.

Other Factors to Consider
Number of clicks – Some may argue that working on a workbench may take a little longer due to the fact that you have to drop items, while working in building mode is less clicks. Remember that in building mode you also have to remove the item before you can rebuild it (and also have to chose "Yes" on the annoying confirmation window). I feel that both these options are very similar when comparing time/clicks.

Some players actually fund their use of the Oak method by Planking and Banking Teak and selling them for profit. The idea being that if you can sell your Teak Planks for 800-1K each that you can easily purchase ready-made Oak Planks for 400-500 each which basically gives you twice the number of Oak planks for the same time.

Conclusion
As you can see Money and Time are the major factors here. I’ve compiled this comparison to show you that there are viable methods to raise your Construction Level the smart way. Yes, you will still need to spend some hard-earned cash to do it, but perhaps this guide will help you save a little money and/or time.
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Postby Ukraine » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:48 am

Hate construction, such dumb skill, and a huge money sink.
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Postby wkw427 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:53 am

After making a gilded alter, construction is useleess IMO

Most useful things:

Lectern
portal
Alter
costume room

that, period
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Postby Blimpyboy2 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:18 pm

Great information here. Thanks for adding this! Just a couple concerns:

1. Your plank-and-bank assumption doesn't factor in any difference in time between obtaining oaks and teaks. Where are the teaks you're chopping? Surely you can't get to teaks, travel to the sawmill (using inventory space to pay for balloon ride), plank, and bank at the same level of efficiency as doing the same with oaks (which are right next to sawmill and thus don't cost you an inventory space). Just the chopping alone takes significantly longer, doesn't it?

2. Due to item renting via junk trading, you can actually recoup a significant portion of your investment (assuming you own something that you can lend out while skill training), by flatpacking and banking certain items. It's an ever-changing landscape, but at the moment, take as an example the oak bench. Flatpack price on this item right now is 969 gp. A teak magic wardrobe sells for over 2k gp. It may not be easy to put it in a guide, but before pumping alot of money into training, I'd certainly factor this into the evaluation.
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Postby Doomedrusher » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:38 pm

And spending 3m on teak tables will yield about 100k of junk. Increased supply = decreased price.
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Postby Blimpyboy2 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:41 pm

Doomedrusher wrote:And spending 3m on teak tables will yield about 100k of junk. Increased supply = decreased price.

That's why you need to factor this in BEFORE you start training. Choose the items to flatpack based on return on your investment. Teak tables might get you only 100k of junk, but teak magic wardrobes could make you 5 times that much. :)
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Postby MotherBrainII » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:05 pm

OK, I've now decided on getting a construction level of 71 - this is, I believe, the lowest level at which a scrying pool can be built (could someone confirm this?), as well as giving me access to everything else I can possibly benefit from.

What materials will I need for this, and how much is it likely to cost?
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Postby Deaconis » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:11 pm

Blimpyboy2 wrote:Great information here. Thanks for adding this! Just a couple concerns:

1. Your plank-and-bank assumption doesn't factor in any difference in time between obtaining oaks and teaks. Where are the teaks you're chopping? Surely you can't get to teaks, travel to the sawmill (using inventory space to pay for balloon ride), plank, and bank at the same level of efficiency as doing the same with oaks (which are right next to sawmill and thus don't cost you an inventory space). Just the chopping alone takes significantly longer, doesn't it?

2. Due to item renting via junk trading, you can actually recoup a significant portion of your investment (assuming you own something that you can lend out while skill training), by flatpacking and banking certain items. It's an ever-changing landscape, but at the moment, take as an example the oak bench. Flatpack price on this item right now is 969 gp. A teak magic wardrobe sells for over 2k gp. It may not be easy to put it in a guide, but before pumping alot of money into training, I'd certainly factor this into the evaluation.



When I was doing this, I was chopping the teak near CW. Yes, agreed, it does take longer to plank n bank teaks than oak, however if you plank/bank teaks you can (could then at least) sell them and buy nearly twice the oaks as well. Never thought of factoring this in as at the time I was usually woodcutting something anyways just for XP so the time wasn't a huge issue to me...sorta was double duty :P

As to point #2! I would imagine that there are some flatpack items that would make good junk thus gaining you some extra dough along the way. I wrote this in May of 2007 before any of the junk trading came about. Would be smart to investigate this for sure!
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Postby MotherBrainII » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:13 pm

Do you mean junk renting? Junk trading has been going on since the trade limit was introduced - in fact, someone here predicted it happening well beforehand.
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Postby Deaconis » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:17 pm

MotherBrainII wrote:OK, I've now decided on getting a construction level of 71 - this is, I believe, the lowest level at which a scrying pool can be built (could someone confirm this?), as well as giving me access to everything else I can possibly benefit from.

What materials will I need for this, and how much is it likely to cost?


+3 Tea, +6 Evil Dave Stew, and +3 Crystal Saw would allow you to make at 68 (I'm fairly certain that all stack - investigate this first please!)

I will say its a PITA to get the +6 effect from EDS, but I did it way back when for my Gilded Altar so its possible =)

You will need 4 marble blocks for your scrying pool. 325K each I think.
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Postby Alconavt » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:24 pm

Deaconis wrote:+3 Tea, +6 Evil Dave Stew, and +3 Crystal Saw would allow you to make at 68 (I'm fairly certain that all stack - investigate this first please!)

I will say its a PITA to get the +6 effect from EDS, but I did it way back when for my Gilded Altar so its possible =)


Tea and stews don't stack.
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Postby Blimpyboy2 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:32 pm

Alconavt wrote:
Deaconis wrote:+3 Tea, +6 Evil Dave Stew, and +3 Crystal Saw would allow you to make at 68 (I'm fairly certain that all stack - investigate this first please!)

I will say its a PITA to get the +6 effect from EDS, but I did it way back when for my Gilded Altar so its possible =)


Tea and stews don't stack.

Is the scrying pool really worth the investment? All it allows you to do is see the locations you can teleport to. What good is that?
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Postby MotherBrainII » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:37 pm

PITA?

And also, what would be the total cost of the following: All 7 types of marble portal with scrying pools, both types of lectern so I can make every type of tab, a mounted glory, a combat ring, an armour stand, one of those staff changing things, a gilded altar and high enough items in the costume room to keep full void with all three helms, full ghostly, full lunar and full infinity? (I think the costume room items can all be flatpacked - if so, disregard the cost of those. Also disregard the cost of the infinity robes)

Sorry, I'm really clueless about this :oops:

EDIT: Blimpy, it will be useful for looking around teleport spots on PVP worlds, I think :mrgreen:
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Postby Deaconis » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:38 pm

MotherBrainII wrote:PITA?

And also, what would be the total cost of the following: All 7 types of marble portal with scrying pools, both types of lectern so I can make every type of tab, a mounted glory, a combat ring, an armour stand, one of those staff changing things, a gilded altar and high enough items in the costume room to keep full void with all three helms, full ghostly, full lunar and full infinity? (I think the costume room items can all be flatpacked - if so, disregard the cost of those. Also disregard the cost of the infinity robes)

Sorry, I'm really clueless about this :oops:

EDIT: Blimpy, it will be useful for looking around teleport spots on PVP worlds, I think :mrgreen:


:oops: Sorry hehe PITA = Pain In The Ass :P
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Postby Blimpyboy2 » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:06 pm

Yeah, I installed all my costume room stuff from flatpacks - that's your best bet there. As for using the scrying pool for PVP, I applaud your inventiveness. But I'd wait until it comes out first to see if they make certain zones (namely those around tele spots) safe, before I spent the time and money on the extra levels. I can't be aggravated with making and testing Evil Dave stews, so I got my construction only to 69, which allows you to make a gilded altar with only the crystal saw and tea bonuses.
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