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Postby Craven Range » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:11 pm

Here is my farming level:
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I really, really want high farming. So far I've done herbs from level 36 - my current level, and its starting to get very slow.. Only getting a level every few weeks. I'm a committed farmer, doing 5-6 Herb runs per day.. But I want to speed it up. I've started growing a Papaya at lleteya, because its so close to a teleport thus no real hassle..

The only problem is that they cost a lot for the small xp you get.. A calquat tree seems good, as its very cheap and gives a lot of xp, the problem is I can't grow them. What should I do for XP, that won't really break the bank? I have access to a fairly constant stream of cash/ and full access to MTK. I'd probably do 1 BIG run per day (meaning 1 run per day for xp, which is trees/etc) .. The only reason i do herbs is because it takes a max of 10minutes. I really don't know how i should go about training to a higher level.. as most seeds cost alot =\

I basically want to know an efficient way to farm for xp too.. right now im doing full profits (herbs only), but i want a decent mix of xp too.. I realise I could go out and buy the highest tree/fruit tree seeds and get xp.. But that's not what I'm about. I want to be able to train efficiently :)

Edit: hers a graph of my recent farming xp over the last month (had a break for a while when i was getting 99 range)
As you can see, its farily gradual

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Edit: Bonus Question!!!

I need (apparently) 1.6k Crimson charms to get 68 Summoning (from 52..), how should I go about getting these? I have ~200 atm from random things. Again, efficiency is the key!
Lots of people say waterfiends.. but im not sure if they think. I'd burn alot more Ppots than the average person, because i would take long to kill them :cry: *Points to pathetic melee stats*

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Postby rho421 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:18 pm

If you added allotment items to your herb runs, you'd get quite a bit more xp per run.

Just a suggestion.
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Postby Craven Range » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:34 pm

rho421 wrote:If you added allotment items to your herb runs, you'd get quite a bit more xp per run.

Just a suggestion.


I sometimes do Marigolds. I find doing allotments a hassle, because i can do a full run without banking if i don't do allotments.. they take alot of time to do because of the huge amount of fruit you get from them :?
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Postby niperwiper » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:38 pm

Set your kingdom to cut maples and use tree seeds you get from there.

As for summoning, do slayer. They won't fall into your lap immediately, but if you stick with it, your charm collection will grow nicely as you train several skills at once.
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Postby Craven Range » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:40 pm

niperwiper wrote:Set your kingdom to cut maples and use tree seeds you get from there.

As for summoning, do slayer. They won't fall into your lap immediately, but if you stick with it, your charm collection will grow nicely as you train several skills at once.


Thankyou for your reply :D I have Kingdom 10 Flax 5 Maples atm, it gives me good seeds sometimes, but mainly i get junk ones :( It's on Maples for Fletching and Wc Levels, so the seeds are a nice bonus at the moment :P

Slayer sounds good, but masks cost alot and i don't have much money... And i feel like im wasting xp if i don't wear one :( Maybe i'll do smoking kills, try to get a helm, charms and slayer levels too =)
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Postby Alconavt » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:44 pm

It sounds like you're still growing ranarrs; I would upgrade to snaps, as they are both more profitable and provide much more xp. Use profits from herb farming to purchase papaya seeds, they are obviously better gp/xp-wise than palms. If you do 6 herb runs a day and farm all 5 patches, you should be getting 500-600K xp from herbs alone; with papayas you'll be getting around 1.5 mil xp a month. Add calqs into the mix when you can and they'll give you another 300K xp a month.

I would not use the Kingdom for seeds -- I think that it's best to use the most profitable option and just buy the seeds you really need. Do use it to get spirit seeds though when you hit the level.
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Postby niperwiper » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:45 pm

Craven Range wrote:
niperwiper wrote:Set your kingdom to cut maples and use tree seeds you get from there.

As for summoning, do slayer. They won't fall into your lap immediately, but if you stick with it, your charm collection will grow nicely as you train several skills at once.


Thankyou for your reply :D I have Kingdom 10 Flax 5 Maples atm, it gives me good seeds sometimes, but mainly i get junk ones :( It's on Maples for Fletching and Wc Levels, so the seeds are a nice bonus at the moment :P

If you've got 750k in the kingdom and 100% approval (the minimum for maximum efficiency), then every day you can generally get one or two trees with decent experience. Yeah, you tend to get lots of acorns and banana/apple tree seeds, but it's certainly a cheap means of getting those expensive seeds.

You could play at the giant mole if you wanted seeds with a bit of combat too. That's always a bit amusing, though probably not worth all the effort. Q has a guide on fighting it which is very thorough. Ooo and i havent seen it since the update, think I'll go take a look!
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Postby Craven Range » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:50 pm

It sounds like you're still growing ranarrs; I would upgrade to snaps, as they are both more profitable and provide much more xp.


I have actually been farming kwuarm's, better xp than ranarr, but from what i've seen they are great. If one dies i don't care too much. I've heard snaps are good, but if one dies then its alot of money down the drain. I normally get 6 herbs per plant.. i think this makes Kwuarms more Profitable than snaps.. though if im wrong feel free to prove me wrong :D

with papayas you'll be getting around 1.5 mil xp a month


Is this papayas in every patch? thats alot of time/money :( i'll give it a go!

Yeah, you tend to get lots of acorns and banana/apple tree seeds,


sadly this is true :(

You could play at the giant mole if you wanted seeds with a bit of combat too


Is this worth the time? or should i just go to avainses and then buy what seeds i want with the money earned? again, im not sure :( The mole i find is really, really annoying. I hate hide and seek as a result of the mole :o
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Postby Mountain » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:52 pm

I can't quite grow snaps, but on my brief kwuarm tests I found they died much more often than ranarrs, and from what I hear snaps are very similar to ranarrs, so the death rate may be similar.
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Postby Alconavt » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:00 pm

Craven Range wrote:I have actually been farming kwuarm's, better xp than ranarr, but from what i've seen they are great. If one dies i don't care too much. I've heard snaps are good, but if one dies then its alot of money down the drain. I normally get 6 herbs per plant.. i think this makes Kwuarms more Profitable than snaps.. though if im wrong feel free to prove me wrong :D


Easy math. At 6 herbs per seed on average (including the dead ones), you make 6*3,060-3,303=15,057 per kwuarm seed and 6*8,122-31,300=17,432 per snap. Snaps also provide better xp.
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Postby Withered Laurels » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:03 pm

I'm 67 farming and I've never bought seeds... due largely to my slayer level. Snaps are great xp, and I rarely have them die. There's always My Arm's patch as well. I remember when I had very little free time I'd play 10 minutes a day: Enough time to plant and harvest the patch as I camped there.

For when I really farm, I tend to find a method that hits multiple profitable patches in a string: Such as Draynor patch-belladonna-evil turnip-whiteberry bush at champs guild-varrock palace tree-GE-gnome stronghold trees-gnome village trees-south ardy bush-vine plant-ardy patch. If banking is a problem for you, I recommend growing strawberries in baskets or supercomposting watermelons.

Of course, my attention span was shot and I haven't chain farmed in ahwile.
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Postby niperwiper » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:09 pm

Craven Range wrote:
Yeah, you tend to get lots of acorns and banana/apple tree seeds,


sadly this is true :(

You could play at the giant mole if you wanted seeds with a bit of combat too


Is this worth the time? or should i just go to avainses and then buy what seeds i want with the money earned? again, im not sure :( The mole i find is really, really annoying. I hate hide and seek as a result of the mole :o

Well, it just depends on your playing style. Efficiency wise, if you wanted to be like that, you could just spend a few months at aviansies mixed with farming and buy 99 farming as you go.

I understand what you're saying, believe me. I'm just saying that enough aviansie time can buy anything and is always an alternative, but it becomes an equation of best ways to make money at that point and just what you also find to be entertaining for your time. If you don't like the mole, screw it! Do what you like :D
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Postby Tracker4502 » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:19 pm

Do curry trees. The cost floats between 2k and 3k per seed depending on when you buy, and you get almost exactly 3k experience per tree. This nets you 15k experience per run, which makes farming very easy to train. In addittion, the curry leaves sell solidly for 5k per run, helping to offset the costs of the method. The method is simply this:

A) Get 25 Baskets.
B) Get 250 Bananas, either through gathering on Kara, buying in Catherby, or the GE.
C) Combine them to get 25 Baskets of Bananas.
D) Make Curry Seedlings (I would suggest doing all of these at once to save time).
E) Start at the GE, use the spirit tree to teleport to Stronghold.
F) Finish the first tree, then go to Gnome village via the tree. Exit the village via Elkoy.
G1) Teleport to Adro, take the boat to Brimhaven and tend to patch 3.
G2) Alternatively use Shilo gloves then cart to Brimhaven.
G3) Or just house teleport if your house is in Brimhaven.
G4) If you somehow have 82 farming, you can spirit tree to Brimhaven too.
H) Teleport to Camelot, run to Catherby and bank the curry leaves.
I) Tend to patch 4.
J) Teleport to Llyetta and finish the run.

If you start at step E, the run takes about 5-10 minutes. Then wait for the bushes to grow and repeat. This works really well for doing in conjunction with daily battlestaves. Enjoy! :wink:
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Postby fernb » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:27 pm

I have spent a little time thinking about this and short of blowing ridiculous wads of cash on tree seeds, farming does take a little time. Also, if you think it is slow now, wait until you hit the 90s.

That said, there are some cost effective options, especially at your level. There are 5 fruit tree and 5 regular tree patches. These should be farmed consistently, if seeds are available. Given the farming cycle of fruit trees, it is really only practical to plant these once a day (5 patches x 7 days = 35 seeds needed per week). Regular trees can easily be planted 3-4 per day, depending on playing time (3 plantings x 5 patches x 7 days = 105 seeds needed per week). Using kingdom generated seeds won't even come close to this number. Therefore, you have to buy them. Two of the best seeds in terms of cost vs. xp are oranges and willows. Oranges are dirt cheap (<500gp) and give 2,470xp/seed, 40% of the xp of papayas at almost no cost. And the oranges sell (although prices are dropping atmo) making the seeds free. Willows cost around 4.2k, so are a lot more expensive and give 1,456xp/seed, which at 3 seeds/day/patch is about 4,200xp. You can sell 6 branches for about 5k, which will recoup the cost of the seeds. This wil give you about 240k xp per week for a cost of about 450k gp, some or all of which you can get back by selling oranges and branches. You can also sell any of the "good" kingdom seeds (maple, papaya, mage, yew etc... ) and use the money to buy oranges and willows, or plant them if you don't need the cash. You should always pay the farmers.

At your current level, you will be at level 72 in two weeks and that is without doing any of the herb/allotment plantings. Also at level 70, poison ivy bushes are also great. 1k xp to check and harvest and they almost never die.

Hope this is useful.
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Postby Craven Range » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:37 pm

wow, excellent replies =)
i'll definitly take that advice. :lol:
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Postby Mariah Wynd » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:42 pm

I plant snaps at the disease free herb patch in Trollheim. I have always gotten enough snapdragon leaves that I make into potions to cover my costs and to buy another snapdragon seed, banking the remaining potions and cash for my own use.
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Postby lebst » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:22 pm

I don't know why but I've had a snapdragon die almost every herb run I've done the past week, probably about 1 in 5 runs all of them actually live, if it wasn't for herb exp I'd grow kwuarm because of the small loss. so maybe kwuarm in 4 patches then a snap seed at trollheim?

As for crimson charms it'd probably be best to do slayer or greater demons drop quite a few for their difficulty.

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Postby Qeltar » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:38 pm

Waterfiends are the best monsters for charms short of the rock lobster route.

The best *easy* monster for charms is the earth warrior. Dharok them in the Chaos Tunnels.
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Postby Craven Range » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:58 pm

wow thankyou everyone :D

i jsut got 1 yew, 1 magic, 1 willow and 1 banana tree seed from 4 nests =) that will give me a decent xp boost, i'll plant all except the magic.. i cant plant those yet :(
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Postby Bowserking » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:47 am

Craven Range wrote:
You could play at the giant mole if you wanted seeds with a bit of combat too


Is this worth the time? or should i just go to avainses and then buy what seeds i want with the money earned? again, im not sure :( The mole i find is really, really annoying. I hate hide and seek as a result of the mole :o


Idk if you're still looking for suggestions or w/e lol but as far as mole goes, you could take a spirit terrobird...theres a mini-obelisk down there and you won't run out of run. Also if you're terrorbird starts to attack the mole then when it digs the terrorbird will follow so it's easy to find.
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