Gravestone Tests: multiple graves? disconnecting on death?

[niperwiper]

I conducted several tests which have led me to several conclusions that I'll state now:

1. Your items dropped on death are never visible to another player.

2. Your items dropped on death will remain on the ground for the allotted time that your gravestone would have lasted even if your gravestone is replaced by another one [i.e - you die again] or you disconnect.

Side fact you probably already know: Any item dropped normally [not on death] that is under 3k in value will be visible to another player within exactly one minute.

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How did I come up with these conclusions? Well, thanks to my friend Match Book14 for helping me with the blessing and staying around for these admittedly boring tests.

Test #1: Got four items, the lowest value of which was a mith bolt, got myself killed in Fally by the guards. Match Book then blessed my grave and I intentionally disconnected and reconnected.

Results: The gravestone disappeared immediately on disconnect, but upon reconnection my items contained in the gravestone were still on the ground. Even 50 minutes later, that lonely mithril bolt lay on the ground. There was, however, no indication that my "gravestone collapsed" when the bolt finally disappeared.

Test #2: Got another item to have four items and died again on purpose.

Results: The mithril bolt from test 1 was completely unaffected by my second death. My items stayed on the ground until the gravestone collapsed, then those items on the ground from test #2 disappeared with the gravestone accordingly with the gravestone's timer.

Test #3: Got another item for four items, got myself to very low hp and imminent death, then turned off my wireless connection. I died while I was disconnected as planned.

Results: The mithril bolt from test 1 is still unaffected and stays for its allotted time. This time, I drop bones and a pineapple on death. The bones disappear after 1 minute and 30 seconds or so, suggesting that those were dropped by me upon death and just a normal drop for someone's death. There was no gravestone, but the item lost on death remained there for the entire time that the gravestone would have lasted.


On all three tests, Match stuck around to see if he saw any of the items dropped on death. He said he didn't see anything.
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Hopefully this will clear up many common misconceptions regarding gravestones. If you want to know about any other scenarios, I conducted several other tests that I just can't remember right now and I can conduct others to match your scenario. Tell me if this helps or if you feel it doesn't prove anything.

[sk3l3t0r711]

Well first off, thank you for sharing the results of your tedious and boring tests! I always wondered what the results would be in some of those scenarios and now I know!

[Dragonlordjl]

I realized this a while ago, at Kree'ara. A friend's computer conked out, but I was able to bless her grave in the few moments before she disconnected. When she came back, she started getting her KC and disconnected several more times. Regardless, she was able to go in and loot her pile, which included Ranger Boots and an Archer Ring.

I did not know that about multiple graves, though. That's good to know.

[Deaconis]

Thanks for this Niperwiper! Excellent (even though boring!) work!!! =)
Please thank your friend as well!

[02pullenc]

well, you beat me to posting the items disapearing if lagged out part

Glad to see these assumptions have been fully tested and proven false.

[rho421]

I wonder why the gravestone "disappears" but still works?

[Blimpyboy2]

This is truly eye-opening. What's most surprising about it is the high amount of posts on the RSOF that complain about gravestones lost on disconnect and the millions in items they lost as a result. But I've never once seen a JMod reply with the fact that the items are still there and free to be retrieved as usual. Why would they choose to not only NOT publicize this fact, but to actually HIDE it? I'd estimate there have been over 100 posts of this nature on the RSOF - surely they can't have missed them ALL!?!

[rho421]

:shock: This is truly eye-opening. What's most surprising about it is the high amount of posts on the RSOF that complain about gravestones lost on disconnect and the millions in items they lost as a result. But I've never once seen a JMod reply with the fact that the items are still there and free to be retrieved as usual. Why would they choose to not only NOT publicize this fact, but to actually HIDE it? I'd estimate there have been over 100 posts of this nature on the RSOF - surely they can't have missed them ALL!?!

Maybe Jagex itself hasn't found this particular meatball in their spaghetti...

[niperwiper]

Well I'd heard contradicting stories on the whole matter. A fair amount of those people who lost things on disconnect may have just lost them because their graves couldn't last that long and nobody blessed them. I had heard odd stories of people coming back to their items still on the ground after disconnect too though. So I wanted to figure it out once and for all

[Rakshar]

Great work Niperwiper! Ok one question on the disconnect after death, if you remain logged out for say 30+ minutes or even longer will your items remain there for the full time? You might have answered that already just looking for clarity.

[Mountain]

Most likely would have been changed at some point, I know that #2 was untrue at one point in time as it happened to me, it's likely that its been fixed. I really doubt that a huge quality of rants would have erupted over something that is utterly false.

[Craven Range]

#2 happened to me a long time ago, and i can cofirm that its right. I died whilst at dag kings, and when i went back to get my items i died again (prime spawned as i was picking up), and i ended up with 2 loot piles to come back for. This was at least two months ago.

I think the problem here is disconnecting and dying when dced, the gravestone will immediatly dissapear. My friend lost an armadyl chest + 22mil cash (coinshared hilt) becasue of a dc death.

[niperwiper]

I think the problem here is disconnecting and dying when dced, the gravestone will immediatly dissapear. My friend lost an armadyl chest + 22mil cash (coinshared hilt) becasue of a dc death.

Ah I see what you're saying, in that case you'd only have 3 - 5 minutes to get back to your grave since nobody could bless it.

Rakshar: If you're blessed, your items had ought to remain there for upwards of 45 - 59 minutes. I took a break from testing to start writing this, was off for about 10 minutes, logged back on and my faithful blessed mithril bolt was still there

[Ukraine]

Phew no more dcing and losing it all.

[Dylan99379]

Awesome work niperwiper!

Really interesting results you got. I feel a little safer with my internet disconnecting every 2 or so hours now.

[ikraz55]

I thought this was common knowledge already? The problem is that if you disconnect and die, your grave is gone before anyone has a chance to bless it. I don't see why jagex doesnt just let the graves stay up as long as the items are still under it....

And during one of my Sara godwars trips, a teammate died, then got back with new supplies and died again. His first grave collapsed when he died the second time, but he managed to get ALL of his drop piles back afterwards.

[niperwiper]

The problem is that if you disconnect and die, your grave is gone before anyone has a chance to bless it. I don't see why jagex doesnt just let the graves stay up as long as the items are still under it...

Yup, that's pretty much the main concern to have if you d/c and die, especially in GWD. Everything else you should be good on though.