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So you've been a good slayer and haven't Burthorped a task yet, you've accumulated lots of points to spend on some new cool stuff or skills, so what are you going spend it on?

Well after reading stuff here and there it seems that the "wisest" approach would be to learn all the equipment making skills first. To learn all 3 it is going to cost you 1k points! Depending on your master, time to play and some other factors you could get this in about a week or two of regular slaying.

Learn how to:
- Make Broad bolts / arrows - 300 points
- Make Slayer Ring - 300 points
- Make Slayer Helm - 400 points

From what I can tell the benefits are almost equal between the 3 choices, so learning one over the other first is more a matter of choice.. I will probably learn to make the mask first, then the ring, and lastly the bolts / arrows, unless you must learn them consecutively. That part I don’t have a clear answer on yet.

After the equipment, the next logical approach from what I can see so far is probably to start optimizing your tasks by black listing a few you don’t like and find too painful to complete. All this of course is to give you better tasks that you like more often in order to get more points faster since you will be Burthorping less You can black list up to 4 monsters, that’s another 400 points.

So after your first 1,400 slayer points, from what I can tell (pending updates and what not) is you should spend your blocks of 400 points on Slayer XP.

Depending on master and strategy, one could reach 1,400 points in less than a month of casual slaying and optimise the skill to something that is more personal and suited to your gaming style of play.

Having not done the new quest I am left with the following question:

In order to start accumulating slayer "points" does one need to start (or complete) the quest? If I train Slayer now as usual without starting the quest, will I be accumulating points?

Just wondering whether doing the quest before further Slayer training is necessary / suggested.

Sir Valimont wrote:Having not done the new quest I am left with the following question:

In order to start accumulating slayer "points" does one need to start (or complete) the quest? If I train Slayer now as usual without starting the quest, will I be accumulating points?

Just wondering whether doing the quest before further Slayer training is necessary / suggested.

TMK, you can only gain points when you complete the quest. After you do, you need to do 4 consecutive assignments from the Canifis master or better to start gaining points. You gain 15 per assignment with Duradel, 12 per assignment with Sumona, 10 per assignment with Chaeldar, 4 per with Vanaka, and 1 per with Mazchna. You also gain 5x that amount on your 10th assignment and 15x that amount on your 50th. The count resets if you ever use Turael.

I'm not really sure if making your own broad arrows and bolts is that important. You can buy both from the slayer masters, right? And unless they've made these projectiles into some sort of game-unbalancing cheapo range or fletching trainers, I don't see the point in making them myself. You only need them for 2 types of slayer assignments.

I would definitely buy the training on making the ring before the mask - those teleports are going to make it a WHOLE lot easier to get the rest of the points along the way.

There's good and bad points to doing the blacklist thing last. It's good that you'll probably get a very clear impression (after gathering over 1000 points) of exactly which slayer assignments you DESPISE. However, if you're already pretty sure of one or two you really don't want to waste your time with, you might save yourself a ton of aggravation and time by moving it up to earlier in the process.

Of course, this is all just my completely uneducated opinion. Sad to say, I haven't even gotten around to doing the quest yet. LOL

Duradel is an ass. After I get my points, I will never use him again.

I would definitely buy the training on making the ring before the mask - those teleports are going to make it a WHOLE lot easier to get the rest of the points along the way.

I thought so too at first, but I realized that 3 of the 4 teleport locations are easy to get to already (if you put your house in Pol.)

Dragonlordjl wrote:Duradel is an ass. After I get my points, I will never use him again.

His tendency to pick a favorite assignment for you and have you commit horrific genocide on their population for weeks on end is what made me stop training slayer at 85. Those poor, poor black demons - now I am become death, destroyer of NPCs...

I'm not really sure if making your own broad arrows and bolts is that important. You can buy both from the slayer masters, right?

Only arrows. If you want the bolts you have to get them as drops, buy them from players or make them yourself. Haven't tried them yet, but I suspect that they are much quicker than the arrows, just because the crossbows are better these days.

BTW, all of the slayer masters tend to pick too many of certain tasks. Sumona gave me kurasks like 4 times out of 10 assignments.

Blimpy, agreed on the bolts / arrows, that is why I have it slated for last on my list, also the broad leaf sword and spear are melee options if you are not into range. Again it's all a matter of personal choice and what combat skill you wish to train or prefer.

I see the mask as a better choise for me since I avoid the tower and fremmy dungeon whenever I can. With the new locations of the Chaos Tunnels, Blood Altar dungeon, the Desert Slayer dungeon, and by using the fairy ring abyss, you almost never have to go to either of these locations to complete a task. Just use an alternate location that is easier / faster to access.

I have never done Tarn's Lair and do not recall ever getting a terror dog task.

Since the ring teleports to the Fremmy dungeon, Slayer tower, Desert Slayer dungeon and Tarn's Lair, the only reason I would want it is for the Desert Slayer dungeon, however I moved my house to the desert so do not have to worry about this either since I use stricly Sumona at this point for tasks as a personal preference.

Again, the choice is really a personal one and style, but good points because it gives people options to consider

I know for me at almost 93 slayer I know exactly what tasks I hate to do, and most of them are the ones DUradel hands out.

sk3l3t0r711 wrote:So after your first 1,400 slayer points, from what I can tell (pending updates and what not) is you should spend your blocks of 400 points on Slayer XP.

Have you considered buying slayer dart runes instead? 400 points only buy 10K slayer XP, that's 1/2 hour of slaying on average. However, 35 points purchase 250 sets of dart runes, that's 250*(302+4*10)=85500gp; 400 points will get you 977K. At this rate you'll basically be paying 100 gp per slayer xp; isn't this a tad expensive? Even herblore cannot touch this lol.

Qeltar wrote:
I would definitely buy the training on making the ring before the mask - those teleports are going to make it a WHOLE lot easier to get the rest of the points along the way.

I thought so too at first, but I realized that 3 of the 4 teleport locations are easy to get to already (if you put your house in Pol.)

Nice helm Q.

You can put your house in Pol, but at the expense of a quick tele to Brimhaven, Taverley, Relleka, or Rimmington. You can get to the Morytania slayer tower via the fairy rings or Canifis house teleport, but not nearly as quickly as with the ring. You can get to Relleka slayer cave with a fairy ring as well, but again not as quickly. And clearly Tarn's lair is just INSANELY difficult to get to without the tele.

In fact, the Tarn's lair tele would be my PRIME reason for getting this ring first, if I were using a slayer master that could assign me terror dogs. God forbid I get a terror dog assignment without owning a slayer ring!

As skel says, though, if you just don't go to any of the other locations and can live with having your house in the desert, then the ring might be less important. I'll have to ponder that one after checking out the desert slayer dungeon.

If you are into money ya sure spending points on runes and selling them is worth it, but I'd rather save time by using up the points on Slayer XP. 10k slayer XP can vary anywhere between 30-minutes to 90 minutes in time saved. I don't use cannons, hate them with a passion, so I melee every task to wrap up my last 99 melee skill.

I that amount of time I saved I can easily make 1m, so the benefit (for me) is marginal at best.

Again it comes back down to what your goals are, if you wish to get the cash for points, then spending them on stuff you can sell will give you that satisfaction, if you prefer to speed up your 99 Slayer, then using those points on anything and everything that will speed up your training is going to be the value add.

True, skel. It's not like there are other alternatives for buying slayer XP.

sk3l3t0r711 wrote:I that amount of time I saved I can easily make 1m, so the benefit (for me) is marginal at best.

2Mil per hour is what even 91 RC does not provide. If you value your time so much and are so rich, why are you currently leveling smithing with addy bolts when you could be using addy platebodies instead? Saving a bit on smithing and then blowing a fortune on slayer does not make any sense to me, but it's your call, obviously.

Blimpyboy2 wrote:True, skel. It's not like there are other alternatives for buying slayer XP.

Boosting prayers, cannon as much as possible and chinning nechs work very well, for example. These methods are also way cheaper than 100 gp per xp proposed above.

Helm first for me unless some fool tries to assign me hell hounds then I might break and black list something first. Just an FYI for those that haven't started the proccess yet, any current assignment you are on when you start the quest does not count towards the initial 5 tasks you have to do. Next for your first 5 task to start gaining points I suggest you go to the Caniffs or Edge master since they will give you smaller and faster tasks and you don't start gaining points until that 6th task. Just a few thoughts happy Slaying.

OK - so since the big money tasks are 10 and 50 then you'd always be doing Duradel for those tasks and always use Mazchna for your first 4 tasks.

I'm not sure if this will apply for most people here or not but I think the argument could be made to get your points using Mazchna...

So for 50 tasks, the points are:
Duradel = 945
Sumona = 816
Chaeldar = 730
Vanaka = 472
Mazchna = 343 points

So if you can complete an average Mazchna task in 1/3 the time of a Duradel task then you'd be better off.
So that' an easy decision considering Mazchna's task sizes alone are about 25% of a Duradel task and that's without even taking into account the difference in the difficulty of assignments.

There may be more of an argument to use one of the middle slayer masters, but I just wanted to stop anyone else from making the mistake I've been making. Don't do 50 straight Duradel tasks!!!

I already calculated it out, and whether it is worth doing the Mazchna thing depends on how long it takes assignments. If it takes 30 minutes per Mazchna assignment (on average), 60 minutes for Sumona and 90 for Duradel, you are better off in the long run using Sumona than Mazchna for the non-10/50 tasks.

Blimp, I agree that the ring is useful and it will be next for me. But don't underestimate the subtle usefulness of the helm.

1. Saves an inventory slot on any assignment in the top level of the Slayer Tower.

2. Allows you to fight several monsters with a black mask that before you could not.

3. It provides far better defence than the black mask. An extra 20 points on all melee/ranged defence is very handy.

4. Status symbol.

Qeltar wrote:I already calculated it out, and whether it is worth doing the Mazchna thing depends on how long it takes assignments. If it takes 30 minutes per Mazchna assignment (on average), 60 minutes for Sumona and 90 for Duradel, you are better off in the long run using Sumona than Mazchna for the non-10/50 tasks.

Right - it's really going to depend on how quickly you can knock out the bigger tasks given by Sumona. I can't do a Sumona task in 60 minutes...

For me, with my melee being as low as it is (relative to most posters) i think Mazchna works better for me. I also love that all I need to do between tasks is tele home to recharge prayer and grab 3 more monks on the way to my next task. For an intermediate slayer that doesn't have every monster/gear combination memorized, it sure is a breath of fresh air to slay this way...